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		<title>By: Pallab</title>
		<link>http://www.pallab.net/2005/11/03/smileygenerator_us_blocks_opera_and_fire/comment-page-2/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>Pallab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enough have been said.It is clear that you dont have any really valid explanation.

You call secunia an ameteur.That itself prooves something.

You perhapds dont even know that resuming last session can be disabled in Opera.

Anyway, I have had enough of your silly comments.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough have been said.It is clear that you dont have any really valid explanation.</p>
<p>You call secunia an ameteur.That itself prooves something.</p>
<p>You perhapds dont even know that resuming last session can be disabled in Opera.</p>
<p>Anyway, I have had enough of your silly comments.<br />
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		<title>By: blocked</title>
		<link>http://www.pallab.net/2005/11/03/smileygenerator_us_blocks_opera_and_fire/comment-page-2/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>blocked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 10:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Idiots who use german spelling to search for a US site name or english product deserve to get no results :))
Don&#039;t know as much as you thought you did eh? :))
I don&#039;t give a flying f*ck what you think of my html. All you&#039;re seeing is the end result of over 50 includes.
Not at all suprising then that there will be things out of order. At least it&#039;s not a pasty gray out of the box cookie cutter CMS. 
I don&#039;t pretend to be w3c god compliant like you frauds do. It just doesn&#039;t interest me at all that opera isn&#039;t intuitive enough to display a simple overflow or scrolling div. 

AS far as your site looking like sh*t in IE, you might try using a calculator next time you play with the padding.

Your session manager garbage kinda rules out the use of Opera in any internet cafe or public library. I hope! 
And tabs? Yuck!

You know you all would make the Iraqi propaganda minister very proud. 
&quot;There are no bugs, no. there are not.. It is the best. You are completely safe. There is no need to worry, the infidels are all lying...&quot;

Well, since palab and friends have turned this into non intelligent drivel and flames with no substance, while censoring the views and posts of others, there&#039;s not much point in continuing this.
Think I&#039;ll head over to sans and read the unbiased and uncensored security alerts on alternative browsers. 
Secunia... lol! What an amateur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idiots who use german spelling to search for a US site name or english product deserve to get no results <img src='http://www.pallab.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> )<br />
Don&#8217;t know as much as you thought you did eh? <img src='http://www.pallab.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> )<br />
I don&#8217;t give a flying f*ck what you think of my html. All you&#8217;re seeing is the end result of over 50 includes.<br />
Not at all suprising then that there will be things out of order. At least it&#8217;s not a pasty gray out of the box cookie cutter CMS.<br />
I don&#8217;t pretend to be w3c god compliant like you frauds do. It just doesn&#8217;t interest me at all that opera isn&#8217;t intuitive enough to display a simple overflow or scrolling div. </p>
<p>AS far as your site looking like sh*t in IE, you might try using a calculator next time you play with the padding.</p>
<p>Your session manager garbage kinda rules out the use of Opera in any internet cafe or public library. I hope!<br />
And tabs? Yuck!</p>
<p>You know you all would make the Iraqi propaganda minister very proud.<br />
&#8220;There are no bugs, no. there are not.. It is the best. You are completely safe. There is no need to worry, the infidels are all lying&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, since palab and friends have turned this into non intelligent drivel and flames with no substance, while censoring the views and posts of others, there&#8217;s not much point in continuing this.<br />
Think I&#8217;ll head over to sans and read the unbiased and uncensored security alerts on alternative browsers.<br />
Secunia&#8230; lol! What an amateur.</p>
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		<title>By: Pallab</title>
		<link>http://www.pallab.net/2005/11/03/smileygenerator_us_blocks_opera_and_fire/comment-page-2/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Pallab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 07:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t how many times I can explain to you that a browser that provides the ability to send false information on a whim and displays things differently than it was intended sends a clear message to me that it&#039;s purpose is not honourable.

You clearly show that you have no knowledge about Opera and it&#039;s history.I have said it before and I would say it again.Opera is doing it as many webmasters (like you) block Opera purposely, while others unknowingly use scripts that sends bad code to Opera.
Do have a look at http://operawatch.blogspot.com/2005/11/yahoo-discriminating-against-opera.html

And session manager is the most wonderfull feature in Opera.And other browsers like Maxthon and Firefox(through extensions) have also embraced it.
Ie is prehistoric and Microsoft is always so slow to react.
First tabbed browser was released in 1994.
Ms added tabbed browsing in 2005.
If you check secunia you would notice that Ms hasnt even bothered to fix many security vulnerabilities.

Btw, Ie can&#039;t even manage to display my blog properly.I admit that it isnt a valid CSS but Opera as well as Firefox manages to render it better than IE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t how many times I can explain to you that a browser that provides the ability to send false information on a whim and displays things differently than it was intended sends a clear message to me that it&#8217;s purpose is not honourable.</p>
<p>You clearly show that you have no knowledge about Opera and it&#8217;s history.I have said it before and I would say it again.Opera is doing it as many webmasters (like you) block Opera purposely, while others unknowingly use scripts that sends bad code to Opera.<br />
Do have a look at <a href="http://operawatch.blogspot.com/2005/11/yahoo-discriminating-against-opera.html" rel="nofollow">http://operawatch.blogspot.com/2005/11/yahoo-discriminating-against-opera.html</a></p>
<p>And session manager is the most wonderfull feature in Opera.And other browsers like Maxthon and Firefox(through extensions) have also embraced it.<br />
Ie is prehistoric and Microsoft is always so slow to react.<br />
First tabbed browser was released in 1994.<br />
Ms added tabbed browsing in 2005.<br />
If you check secunia you would notice that Ms hasnt even bothered to fix many security vulnerabilities.</p>
<p>Btw, Ie can&#8217;t even manage to display my blog properly.I admit that it isnt a valid CSS but Opera as well as Firefox manages to render it better than IE.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricky123</title>
		<link>http://www.pallab.net/2005/11/03/smileygenerator_us_blocks_opera_and_fire/comment-page-2/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricky123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 06:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>90% of the people use IE from many years,  i use IE but i dont get any viruses or spyware ,  

the only people who need opera are the people who are very lazy to maintain thier pc , or are running buggy linux ,  

if u had winxpsp2 with all the updates and IE ,u will have no security problems, so stop spreading lies ,:-/

the only thing Opera and FF is know for is spreading lies , cuz that is the only way they can be in bussiness,

trying to scare people and making them use Crap browsers , 

IE Rules the Web , and will Rule for the next Decade , :&gt;&gt;

Opera future will be like Netscape :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>90% of the people use IE from many years,  i use IE but i dont get any viruses or spyware ,  </p>
<p>the only people who need opera are the people who are very lazy to maintain thier pc , or are running buggy linux ,  </p>
<p>if u had winxpsp2 with all the updates and IE ,u will have no security problems, so stop spreading lies ,:-/</p>
<p>the only thing Opera and FF is know for is spreading lies , cuz that is the only way they can be in bussiness,</p>
<p>trying to scare people and making them use Crap browsers , </p>
<p>IE Rules the Web , and will Rule for the next Decade , :&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Opera future will be like Netscape <img src='http://www.pallab.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rowan Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.pallab.net/2005/11/03/smileygenerator_us_blocks_opera_and_fire/comment-page-2/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>Rowan Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 04:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I nearly forgot!

Since this whole thing started, your sites rank has &lt;em&gt;gone down&lt;/em&gt;, and your not even on the first page in MSN Search for &quot;smilie generator&quot;...

All the people complaining about your stupidity are ranked &lt;strong&gt;above you&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I nearly forgot!</p>
<p>Since this whole thing started, your sites rank has <em>gone down</em>, and your not even on the first page in MSN Search for &#8220;smilie generator&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>All the people complaining about your stupidity are ranked <strong>above you</strong>.</p>
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		<title>By: Rowan Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.pallab.net/2005/11/03/smileygenerator_us_blocks_opera_and_fire/comment-page-2/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Rowan Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 04:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually moron, you have alot to defent.

Your site is so utterly worthless and poorly coded that some browsers have issues with it, and then you blame those browsers and call them crap and poorly coded?

&quot;People just don&#039;t like opera and with many valid reasons.&quot;
People don&#039;t like IE for many valid reasons:
1. Its insecure
2. Its insecure
3. Its still insecure
4. Five years from now, it will be even more insecure because MS can&#039;t be arsed fixing it
5. It has poor support from standards that allow web developers to produce sites that work in all browsers

And when morons like you try to push it on people, what do you expect?

&quot;I say it&#039;s a matter of trying to gain access to places where you and your browser are not welcome.&quot;
Not welcome? Because the author of a page is to stupid to go to www.w3.org and read up on standards?

&quot;In my case because it looks like crap, handles pages like crap, has MAJOR safety and security issues, comes default with a faked UA, and isn&#039;t popular enough to be considered a supported browser.&quot;
You know, that sounds like your describing most of the flaws in IE.

Oh, IE isn&#039;t a popular browser, everyone that knows anything about web development hates it, and the people that use it only use it because its the default on their system.

&quot;From what I&#039;ve seen on your blog and on the opera site itself, The majority of opera supporters are just uneducated and possibly damaged people with very bad attitudes who pretend to know everything about everything but only really know what they read from others like yourself and a few so called mainstream &quot;scrurity experts&quot; websites.&quot;

Big words coming from someone who can&#039;t even produce valid HTML. Fact is, these people are not pretending, they actually do know more than you.

&quot;I don&#039;t how many times I can explain to you that a browser that provides the ability to send false information on a whim and displays things differently than it was intended sends a clear message to me that it&#039;s purpose is not honourable.&quot;
Whereas, a developer who sends badly formed HTML is perfectly acceptable, and justified?

&quot;It is certainly not the kind of software that ordinary honest web users would ever need!&quot;
Actually, its this very software that helps save the web from morons like you, who think its OK to send invalid, poorly written HTML, just because they want to do their own thing.

&quot;That&#039;s a nightmare just waiting to happen.&quot;
Sure, and your helping maintain that nightmare.

Face it balamn, everyone else here knows more than you do about these things, sure you might have been one of the big guys back in the day, but today your knowledge is lacking to the extent that everyone thinks your a moron, with no clue.

Well, perhaps thats exactly what you are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually moron, you have alot to defent.</p>
<p>Your site is so utterly worthless and poorly coded that some browsers have issues with it, and then you blame those browsers and call them crap and poorly coded?</p>
<p>&#8220;People just don&#8217;t like opera and with many valid reasons.&#8221;<br />
People don&#8217;t like IE for many valid reasons:<br />
1. Its insecure<br />
2. Its insecure<br />
3. Its still insecure<br />
4. Five years from now, it will be even more insecure because MS can&#8217;t be arsed fixing it<br />
5. It has poor support from standards that allow web developers to produce sites that work in all browsers</p>
<p>And when morons like you try to push it on people, what do you expect?</p>
<p>&#8220;I say it&#8217;s a matter of trying to gain access to places where you and your browser are not welcome.&#8221;<br />
Not welcome? Because the author of a page is to stupid to go to <a href="http://www.w3.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.w3.org</a> and read up on standards?</p>
<p>&#8220;In my case because it looks like crap, handles pages like crap, has MAJOR safety and security issues, comes default with a faked UA, and isn&#8217;t popular enough to be considered a supported browser.&#8221;<br />
You know, that sounds like your describing most of the flaws in IE.</p>
<p>Oh, IE isn&#8217;t a popular browser, everyone that knows anything about web development hates it, and the people that use it only use it because its the default on their system.</p>
<p>&#8220;From what I&#8217;ve seen on your blog and on the opera site itself, The majority of opera supporters are just uneducated and possibly damaged people with very bad attitudes who pretend to know everything about everything but only really know what they read from others like yourself and a few so called mainstream &#8220;scrurity experts&#8221; websites.&#8221;</p>
<p>Big words coming from someone who can&#8217;t even produce valid HTML. Fact is, these people are not pretending, they actually do know more than you.</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t how many times I can explain to you that a browser that provides the ability to send false information on a whim and displays things differently than it was intended sends a clear message to me that it&#8217;s purpose is not honourable.&#8221;<br />
Whereas, a developer who sends badly formed HTML is perfectly acceptable, and justified?</p>
<p>&#8220;It is certainly not the kind of software that ordinary honest web users would ever need!&#8221;<br />
Actually, its this very software that helps save the web from morons like you, who think its OK to send invalid, poorly written HTML, just because they want to do their own thing.</p>
<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s a nightmare just waiting to happen.&#8221;<br />
Sure, and your helping maintain that nightmare.</p>
<p>Face it balamn, everyone else here knows more than you do about these things, sure you might have been one of the big guys back in the day, but today your knowledge is lacking to the extent that everyone thinks your a moron, with no clue.</p>
<p>Well, perhaps thats exactly what you are?</p>
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		<title>By: blocked</title>
		<link>http://www.pallab.net/2005/11/03/smileygenerator_us_blocks_opera_and_fire/comment-page-2/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>blocked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 22:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we don&#039;t need to defend anything. Your less than 6% market share says it all. 
People just don&#039;t like opera and with many valid reasons. 
Mine is that it&#039;s proponents consider themselves above the rest of us and tend to be non commerce supporting, and hell bent on proving they can ripp off legitimate online businesses by skirting browser checks, ads, and webmasters. Aided of course by the software itself. 
You tell me it&#039;s insecurity or unfair treatment that forces opera to identify itself as IE6. 
I say it&#039;s a matter of trying to gain access to places where you and your browser are not welcome. In my case because it looks like crap, handles pages like crap, has MAJOR safety and security issues, comes default with a faked UA, and isn&#039;t popular enough to be considered a supported browser. 
From what I&#039;ve seen on your blog and on the opera site itself, The majority of opera supporters are just uneducated and possibly damaged people with very bad attitudes who pretend to know everything about everything but only really know what they read from others like yourself and a few so called mainstream &quot;scrurity experts&quot; websites. 
I don&#039;t how many times I can explain to you that a browser that provides the ability to send false information on a whim and displays things differently than it was intended sends a clear message to me that it&#039;s purpose is not honourable. 
It is certainly not the kind of software that ordinary honest web users would ever need!
And I would highly recommend that ordinary users stay far away from it as long as it opens old sites and pages or sessions by default. 
That&#039;s a nightmare just waiting to happen. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we don&#8217;t need to defend anything. Your less than 6% market share says it all.<br />
People just don&#8217;t like opera and with many valid reasons.<br />
Mine is that it&#8217;s proponents consider themselves above the rest of us and tend to be non commerce supporting, and hell bent on proving they can ripp off legitimate online businesses by skirting browser checks, ads, and webmasters. Aided of course by the software itself.<br />
You tell me it&#8217;s insecurity or unfair treatment that forces opera to identify itself as IE6.<br />
I say it&#8217;s a matter of trying to gain access to places where you and your browser are not welcome. In my case because it looks like crap, handles pages like crap, has MAJOR safety and security issues, comes default with a faked UA, and isn&#8217;t popular enough to be considered a supported browser.<br />
From what I&#8217;ve seen on your blog and on the opera site itself, The majority of opera supporters are just uneducated and possibly damaged people with very bad attitudes who pretend to know everything about everything but only really know what they read from others like yourself and a few so called mainstream &#8220;scrurity experts&#8221; websites.<br />
I don&#8217;t how many times I can explain to you that a browser that provides the ability to send false information on a whim and displays things differently than it was intended sends a clear message to me that it&#8217;s purpose is not honourable.<br />
It is certainly not the kind of software that ordinary honest web users would ever need!<br />
And I would highly recommend that ordinary users stay far away from it as long as it opens old sites and pages or sessions by default.<br />
That&#8217;s a nightmare just waiting to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: mors</title>
		<link>http://www.pallab.net/2005/11/03/smileygenerator_us_blocks_opera_and_fire/comment-page-2/#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>mors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 17:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from balamn
&quot;&quot;Opera is just as bad but even worse for the crappy way it handles site layout and &quot;drag and drop&quot;.&quot;&quot;

No wonder there - the html is all wrong, pages badly formated and organized. what would you expect ?!? Opera to have the exact same error recovery algorithms that ie ?!? if you respected w3c recomendations your site would look great in any browser. that&#039;s what they&#039;re for</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from balamn<br />
&#8220;&#8221;Opera is just as bad but even worse for the crappy way it handles site layout and &#8220;drag and drop&#8221;.&#8221;"</p>
<p>No wonder there &#8211; the html is all wrong, pages badly formated and organized. what would you expect ?!? Opera to have the exact same error recovery algorithms that ie ?!? if you respected w3c recomendations your site would look great in any browser. that&#8217;s what they&#8217;re for</p>
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		<title>By: Pallab</title>
		<link>http://www.pallab.net/2005/11/03/smileygenerator_us_blocks_opera_and_fire/comment-page-2/#comment-113</link>
		<dc:creator>Pallab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 15:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;but u people want to force ur crap browsers on other&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Can you tell me how am i forcing Opera on others?It was balamm try to force IE on others and on top of that giving extremely lame and stupid reasons which none of you have been able to defend.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>but u people want to force ur crap browsers on other</p></blockquote>
<p>Can you tell me how am i forcing Opera on others?It was balamm try to force IE on others and on top of that giving extremely lame and stupid reasons which none of you have been able to defend.</p>
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		<title>By: babumuchhala</title>
		<link>http://www.pallab.net/2005/11/03/smileygenerator_us_blocks_opera_and_fire/comment-page-2/#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>babumuchhala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 13:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well its one thing not liking a browser and banning it another.

If he dosent like these two browsers i.e. Opera &amp; firefox the he should have straight away mentioned that &quot;I dont Like these browsers &amp; are banned on my site&quot; instead of blaming Opera &amp; Firefox being leacers &amp; stuff.

Plus ricky if we agree with u that Opera &amp; Firefox is Crap. then IE for sure is CRAPPIEST browser currently out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well its one thing not liking a browser and banning it another.</p>
<p>If he dosent like these two browsers i.e. Opera &amp; firefox the he should have straight away mentioned that &#8220;I dont Like these browsers &amp; are banned on my site&#8221; instead of blaming Opera &amp; Firefox being leacers &amp; stuff.</p>
<p>Plus ricky if we agree with u that Opera &amp; Firefox is Crap. then IE for sure is CRAPPIEST browser currently out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricky123</title>
		<link>http://www.pallab.net/2005/11/03/smileygenerator_us_blocks_opera_and_fire/comment-page-2/#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricky123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no i think ur going offtopic , the whole topic was why balamm banned opera and firefox , which answer is very simple , he doesnt like it , 

but u people want to force ur crap browsers on others , opera maybe the worlds greatest browser , but if some one doesnt like , u cant do anything about it , 
 CAN YOU ? :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no i think ur going offtopic , the whole topic was why balamm banned opera and firefox , which answer is very simple , he doesnt like it , </p>
<p>but u people want to force ur crap browsers on others , opera maybe the worlds greatest browser , but if some one doesnt like , u cant do anything about it ,<br />
 CAN YOU ? :p</p>
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		<title>By: Pallab</title>
		<link>http://www.pallab.net/2005/11/03/smileygenerator_us_blocks_opera_and_fire/comment-page-2/#comment-110</link>
		<dc:creator>Pallab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 10:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opera is more secure.I am sure you have heard of secunia.Check their site for confirmation.
And again this has no relation with my topic.You said that Opera and Firefox are leech browsers that promoted theft and fraud.That is what I wrote about.Not how good a browser Opera is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opera is more secure.I am sure you have heard of secunia.Check their site for confirmation.<br />
And again this has no relation with my topic.You said that Opera and Firefox are leech browsers that promoted theft and fraud.That is what I wrote about.Not how good a browser Opera is.</p>
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		<title>By: blocked</title>
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		<dc:creator>blocked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 10:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I prefer to believe only unbiased sites who have no agenda to promote one software over another. I doubt you have access to the level of information or reports I receive though so it&#039;s not surprising that you&#039;d refer people to that site. 

So addressing the security issues with Opera and firefox is off topic? 
I don&#039;t see how. 
You bitched about me playing opera and firefox users and said there was no reason for it. Well, here&#039;s just one more reason not to use them and not to like them. At least not until they mature enough to admit they have major problems. Just as many as IE does if not more! Explain it away if you want. I&#039;ll just go deeper into them and find more holes to exploit next week.
Me 1337? Nah, just not easily fooled by propaganda and hype.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I prefer to believe only unbiased sites who have no agenda to promote one software over another. I doubt you have access to the level of information or reports I receive though so it&#8217;s not surprising that you&#8217;d refer people to that site. </p>
<p>So addressing the security issues with Opera and firefox is off topic?<br />
I don&#8217;t see how.<br />
You bitched about me playing opera and firefox users and said there was no reason for it. Well, here&#8217;s just one more reason not to use them and not to like them. At least not until they mature enough to admit they have major problems. Just as many as IE does if not more! Explain it away if you want. I&#8217;ll just go deeper into them and find more holes to exploit next week.<br />
Me 1337? Nah, just not easily fooled by propaganda and hype.</p>
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		<title>By: Pallab</title>
		<link>http://www.pallab.net/2005/11/03/smileygenerator_us_blocks_opera_and_fire/comment-page-2/#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator>Pallab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 08:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Balamm.Enough of these kind of posts.If you cant post in a decent manner then please dont.If you have any valid points to share then please go ahead.But otherwise there is no point in making posts like these.
From this point onwards any out of topic comments would be deleted.
As for as security issue is concerned check www.secunia.com and compare the security track record of Ie,Firefox and Opera.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Balamm.Enough of these kind of posts.If you cant post in a decent manner then please dont.If you have any valid points to share then please go ahead.But otherwise there is no point in making posts like these.<br />
From this point onwards any out of topic comments would be deleted.<br />
As for as security issue is concerned check <a href="http://www.secunia.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.secunia.com</a> and compare the security track record of Ie,Firefox and Opera.</p>
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		<title>By: blocked</title>
		<link>http://www.pallab.net/2005/11/03/smileygenerator_us_blocks_opera_and_fire/comment-page-1/#comment-108</link>
		<dc:creator>blocked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 08:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah.. ok... have another drink there buddy. ;)
You&#039;re almost comprehensible :))

Your &quot;scrurity experts&quot; don&#039;t know sh*t.
Opera and firefox both have their own security issues to deal with as evidenced by the latest script running on my main index. 
I&#039;ve only scripted for browsers pretending to be IE so far because I really don&#039;t give a sh*t about &quot;wanna be&quot; browsers pretending to be another &quot;wanna be&quot; browser. 
The only flaming you&#039;re getting is for being feeble minded and too drunk too type a clear sentence ;)
Drugs and alcohol make you  stupid(er) ya know :))
How much you getting paid for plugging this software anyway? 
I know palab&#039;s just in it for the glory and attention..
 but to be as angry, obnoxious, and  fanatical as you are about this for no cash? That&#039;s just very sad and hard to believe unless you actually are an active developer of one of these highly over rated problem browsers. 
And judging by the communication skills you&#039;ve displayed here, I seriously doubt that. 

Oh, and palab, You do know the difference between overflows, scrolling divs, framesets, and iframes? 
&lt;blockquote&gt;Smileygenerator is one of the few sites still using almost extinct frames&lt;/blockquote&gt;
No, I don&#039;t think you do or you wouldn&#039;t have posted such drivel. 
There are no framesets anywhere on any of my sites. Iframes and hidden iframes on the other hand are quite usefull and are employed by many major opensource portals and CMS&#039;s.
I think you&#039;ll find 3 or 4 on my main index for smileygenerator.us.
You really should try to at least have a basic grasp on the subjects you tackle. Challenging people who know the difference at this point is just making you look like an idiot who&#039;s out for acceptance from other idiots. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah.. ok&#8230; have another drink there buddy. <img src='http://www.pallab.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
You&#8217;re almost comprehensible <img src='http://www.pallab.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
<p>Your &#8220;scrurity experts&#8221; don&#8217;t know sh*t.<br />
Opera and firefox both have their own security issues to deal with as evidenced by the latest script running on my main index.<br />
I&#8217;ve only scripted for browsers pretending to be IE so far because I really don&#8217;t give a sh*t about &#8220;wanna be&#8221; browsers pretending to be another &#8220;wanna be&#8221; browser.<br />
The only flaming you&#8217;re getting is for being feeble minded and too drunk too type a clear sentence <img src='http://www.pallab.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Drugs and alcohol make you  stupid(er) ya know <img src='http://www.pallab.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> )<br />
How much you getting paid for plugging this software anyway?<br />
I know palab&#8217;s just in it for the glory and attention..<br />
 but to be as angry, obnoxious, and  fanatical as you are about this for no cash? That&#8217;s just very sad and hard to believe unless you actually are an active developer of one of these highly over rated problem browsers.<br />
And judging by the communication skills you&#8217;ve displayed here, I seriously doubt that. </p>
<p>Oh, and palab, You do know the difference between overflows, scrolling divs, framesets, and iframes? </p>
<blockquote><p>Smileygenerator is one of the few sites still using almost extinct frames</p></blockquote>
<p>No, I don&#8217;t think you do or you wouldn&#8217;t have posted such drivel.<br />
There are no framesets anywhere on any of my sites. Iframes and hidden iframes on the other hand are quite usefull and are employed by many major opensource portals and CMS&#8217;s.<br />
I think you&#8217;ll find 3 or 4 on my main index for smileygenerator.us.<br />
You really should try to at least have a basic grasp on the subjects you tackle. Challenging people who know the difference at this point is just making you look like an idiot who&#8217;s out for acceptance from other idiots.</p>
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